Bhai Nand Lal – quotes

Bhai Nand Lal Goya (1633-1713) was a great scholar of Persian, he was one of the fifty-two poets in the court of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. He was born in a thriving town called Ghazni in Afghanistan in 1633 and was thus 23 years older than Guru Ji.
Bhai Nand Lal arrived in Anandpur Sahib on Baisakhi day of 1682 and received Guru Gobind Singh Sahib’s blessing. Upon seeing the Guru for the first time his soul was so profoundly affected that he put it down in poetry :

“O prince of heaven, king of all that is beautiful, pray do not come more beautiful.
I have no more strength left in me, Allured, charmed and fascinated by thee, I sacrifice unto thee. Glory Glory O beloved.
From the beautiful bow of your eyebrows, you shot the arrow of your glance, the arrow of love is through my heart , there is no cure, no remedy.”

He spent his days with Guru in a mystical contemplation and composed poetry in which, his spiritual experience, is the pre-eminent element. Some interesting quotes from someone who did sangat with Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

Idol worship, Brahmin rituals, wearing the dhoti and leaving the head bare are duties that were required during past yugas [not during the present]. During Kalyug the proper duty to observe is that which binds the disciples to the Guru. Each Yuga has its own Veda. For the Kalyug it is the Atharva Veda. According to the Atharva Veda he who lives in Kalyug and obeys The Word of the Guru shall find rich fulfillment whereas he who does not obey it will sink [in the Ocean of Existence].

Freedom from the cycle of death and rebirths is not obtained by reading the Shastras, the Vedas or the Puranas. The ladder which leads to freedom is the Divine Name. He who reads, hears or repeats the Divine Name shall be freed from the transmigratory round of births and deaths. Without the Guru there can be no release, though one searches the Vedas and the Puranas. Hear O’ Khalsa as Gobind Singh declares: In Kalyug the Divine Name is supreme.

Bhai Nand Lal, Sakhi Rehit Ki

Wearing the sacred thread is a Hindu custom [not a Khalsa one]. The emblem that has been conferred on the Khalsa will make a Sikh easily recognizable amidst a hundred thousand Hindus and a hundred thousand Muslims. How can he conceal himself when he wears a turban on his head and has a fine flowing beard and an uncut kes?
Bhai Nand Lal, Sakhi Rehit Ki

Those lost in You need no cup for intoxication,
For those thirsting for Your sight, the sweetness of wine has no relish.
Bhai Nand Lal

Nidar betrays the memory of his Grandmaster Baba Giana Singh

Baba Giana Singh, Noted Grandmaster of ShastarVidiya

Nidar on his website claims lineage from Baba Giana Singh, among others, a noted ShastarVidiya Master who according to Baba Santa Singh, taught many thousands of Singhs how to fight at Akali Phoola Singh Burj.

Time and time again Nidar, on his website, falsey attributes his “Sanatan Hindu Sikh Shastar Vidiya” label to Baba Giana Singh.

here is the proof

And he does the same thing on this page He makes it sound like Baba Giana Singh acknowledged the “Sanatan Hindu Shiv Akhara” or was a member of it.

The horrifying thing is, Baba Giana Singh ji wrote a book called Shastar Vidiya and it was published by Budha Dal Printing Press under Baba Santa Singh Ji. The disturbing revelation is that Baba Giana Singh never mentions the words “Snatan, Hindu, Shiv Akhara” throughout the whole book.

Baba Giana Singh jis Pustak that never mentions the words “Sanatan Hindu Shiv Akhara”

We can not be stupid enough to ignore the fact that this charlatan(Surjeet Singh Bains – Nidar), is adding his own words to history and legitimising his own MATT(Sanatan Hindu ideology) by using the Chardi Klaa Akali Nihang Singhs Shastar Vidiya, Baba Giana Singh and the original Ranjit Akhara as a stepping stone.

If I was a Nihang I would be well upset at this blatant misrepresentation. It is a travesty and betrayal to Baba Giana Singh to add words to his name that he never believed in or used in his lifetime. If Baba Giana Singh was a Sanatanist then don’t you think he would have at least mentioned it in his book.

It is a shame that ShastarVidiya of the Nihangs has been hijacked by Sanatanists.

NIdar’s Hadh Thor challenge?

NIdar can you please answer each question about your famous Hadh Thor Challenge?

  • Where would this challenge take place?
  • How would someone accept the challenge?
  • How many people have challenged him so far?
  • Have any people been turned away from the challenge?
  • what are the rules?
  • Is this weapon combat or hand to hand combat?
  • What are the parameters of the challenge? who is considered a winner?
  • Do we need to create and legal contract to prevent the losing party taking legal action?
  • Can we film the challenge?
  • If Nidar is defeated or fails to fight does he concede his position as gurdev?
  • Why is Nidar afraid to fight hand to hand?
  • It says on your website that hand to hand may result in desecration of hair but weapons based challenges can also result in desecration of hair and life? (which makes no sense)
  • If we bring multiple challengers will your Gurdev challenge them one after another or need a rest
  • If a challenger defeats Nidar and takes over the akhara he obviously gets possession of all akharas weapons because they will be the new Gurdev?

answer each one and please, take your time, but make sure you answer each question

University Sikh Societies joint statement about Nidar in 2004

Below you will see that Nidar is no stranger to controversy, in 2004 he cleverly mis-used Sikhs society names to hold seminars in London universities as part of a lecture series. Please read the joint statement from the Sikh Societies below once they realised the nature of Nidars seminars.

Sikh Societies Joint Statement on ‘Traditional to modern British Raj Sikhism’ Lecture Series and ‘Snatan Sikhs’

28 November 2004

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!
Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

In recent weeks the Institute of Sikh Martial Heritage have organised a four-lecture series entitled ‘Traditional to modern British Raj Sikhism’ to take place at a number of London universities. The sole speaker for the lecture series is Mr Niddar Singh.

Promotional material for this event which has been circulated electronically and via flyers has stated that the lecture series is supported by a number of London-based Sikh Societies.

Members of our London-based Sikh Society committees were approached by associates of Mr Niddar Singh to book venues on their behalf, but without specifying the theme or nature of the lectures. It was only after the above mentioned promotional literature was circulated that we became aware of the precise nature of these events.

We would like to make clear to all concerned that contrary to the false advertisement and rumours that are being circulated; we did not and will not support this lecture series, the Institute of Sikh Martial Heritage or Mr Niddar Singh.

We have informed the relevant Student Unions that the below listed London-based Sikh Societies do not wish to be associated with this lecture series or the organisers, and that all venues booked under their Society in relation to this lecture series be cancelled immediately.

In addition to the London-based Sikh Societies, we would like to categorically state that the Societies listed below do not wish to associate themselves with the Institute of Sikh Martial He

ritage, Mr Niddar Singh or any other group promoting him.

With respect to misrepresenting the Sikh Societies, we demand that the Institute of Sikh Martial Heritage issue a written apology to all Sikh Societies concerned.

On Behalf of the following Sikh Societies,

  • Kings College London Sikh Society
  • University College London Sikh Society
  • London School of Economics Sikh Society
  • Imperial College London Sikh Society
  • Cambridge University Sikh Society
  • Oxford University Sikh Society
  • Hertfordshire University Sikh Society
  • Brunel University Sikh Society
  • City University Sikh Society
  • Luton University Sikh Society
  • London Metropolitan University Sikh Society
  • Kingston University Sikh Society
  • Richmond College Sikh Society


Khalsa is Unique and timeless, not Hindu-Sanatan.

Many Sanatanists like to claim that the Khalsa is an offshoot, a continuation or extension of the Hindu Sanatan Dharam that was prevalent before it. Sanatanists are quick to reference paintings and pictures or mentions of devtey and misconstrue it as affiliation, worship or propagation. A closer look is advised.

Guru Gobind Singh ji explained the creation of the Khalsa in the Bachittar Natak as a new beginning, one that was devoid of the ego, confusion and failure of Sanatan dharams that came before it.

In Bachittar Natak Guru Gobind Singh Ji narrates his conversation with God. Within this conversation Vaheguru describes the utter failure of Sanatan dharam that had come to be in the world before the Khalsa.

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

ਜਬ ਪਹਿਲੇ ਹਮ ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਬਨਾਈ ॥ ਦਈਤ ਰਚੇ ਦੁਸਟ ਦੁਖਦਾਈ ॥
When I created the world in the beginning, I created the ignominious and dreadful Demons.

ਤੇ ਭੁਜ ਬਲ ਬਵਰੇ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਗਏ ॥ ਪੂਜਤ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਰਹਿ ਗਏ ॥੬॥
Who became mad with power and abandoned the worship of Supreme Purusha.6.

ਤੇ ਹਮ ਤਮਕਿ ਤਨਕ ਮੋ ਖਾਪੇ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਕੀ ਠਉਰ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਥਾਪੇ ॥
I destroyed them in no time and created gods in their place.

ਤੇ ਭੀ ਬਲਿ ਪੂਜਾ ਉਰਝਾਏ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਹੀ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਕਹਾਏ ॥੭॥
They were also absorbed in the worship of power and called themselves Ominipotent.7.

ਮਹਾਦੇਵ ਅਚੁੱਤ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥ ਬਿਸਨ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ ॥
Mahadeo (Shiva) was called Achyuta (blotless), Vishnu considered himself the Supreme.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥
Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

ਤਬ ਸਾਖੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਅਸਟ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ ਸਾਖ ਨਮਿਤ ਦੇਬੇ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥
Then I created eight Sakshis in order to give evidence of my Entity.

ਤੇ ਕਹੈ ਕਰੋ ਹਮਾਰੀ ਪੂਜਾ ॥ ਹਮ ਬਿਨ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੯॥
But they considered themselves all in all and asked the people to worship them.9.

ਪਰਮ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜਿਨ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਕਰਿ ਈਸਰ ਤਿਨ ਕਹੁ ਮਾਨਾ ॥
Those who did not comprehend the Lord, they were considered as Ishvara.

ਕੇਤੇ ਸੂਰ ਚੰਦ ਕਹੁ ਮਾਨੈ ॥ ਅਗਨਿ ਹੋਤ੍ਰ ਕਈ ਪਵਨ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨੈ ॥੧੦॥
Several people worshipped the sun and the moon and several others worshipped Fire and Air.10.

ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਾਹਨ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਾ ॥ ਨ੍ਹਾਤ ਕਿਤੇ ਜਲ ਕਰਤ ਬਿਧਾਨਾ ॥
Several them considered God as stone and several others bathed considering the Lord was of Water.

ਕੇਤਕ ਕਰਮ ਕਰਤ ਡਰਪਾਨਾ ॥ ਧਰਮ ਰਾਜ ਕੋ ਧਰਮ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੧੧॥
Considering Dharmaraja as the Supreme representative of Dharma, several bore fear of him in their actions. 11.

ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਾਖ ਨਮਿਤ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥ ਤੇ ਹਿਆਂ ਆਇ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕਹਵਾਏ ॥
All those whom God established for the revelation of His Supremacy, they themselves were called Supreme.

ਤਾ ਕੀ ਬਾਤ ਬਿਸਰ ਜਾਤੀ ਭੀ ॥ ਅਪਨੀ ਅਪਨੀ ਪਰਤ ਸੋਭ ਭੀ ॥੧੨॥
They forgot the Lord in their race for supremacy. 12

(Bachittar Natak, Sri Dasam Granth)

So Vaheguru thus sent Guru Gobind Singh ji to start a new path as all that had come before had failed to propagate the truth. Guru Gobind Singh ji replied…

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

ਠਾਢ ਭਯੋ ਮੈ ਜੋਰਿ ਕਰ ਬਚਨ ਕਹਾ ਸਿਰ ਨਿਆਇ ॥
I stood up with folded hands and bowing down my head, I said:

ਪੰਥ ਚਲੈ ਤਬ ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਜਬ ਤੁਮ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ ॥੩੦॥
The path (Panth) shall prevail only in the world, with THY ASSISTANCE.”30.

So Guru Gobind Singh ji was born as the tenth form of Guru Nanak to change the history of the World and its people forever. Whereas people before were worshipping Devtey(Angels) or Rakhsas(Demons), or promoting their own worship, the Guru sought to change peoples ways

ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਔ ਬਿਸਨ ਜਪੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋਟਿਕ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਭਲੀ ਬਿਧਿ ਧਿਆਯੋ ॥
Thou hast meditated on millions of Krishnas, Vishnus, Ramas and Rahims.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜਪਿਓ ਅਰੁ ਸੰਭੁ ਥਪਿਓ ਤਹਿ ਤੇ ਤੁਹਿ ਕੋ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨ ਬਚਾਯੋ ॥
Thou hast recited the name of Brahma and established Shivalingam, even then none could save thee.

ਕੋਟ ਕਰੀ ਤਪਸਾ ਦਿਨ ਕੋਟਿਕ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਕੌਡੀ ਕੋ ਕਾਮ ਕਢਾਯੋ ॥
Thou hast observed millions of austerities for millions of days, but thou couldst not be recompensed even for the value of a cowrie.

ਕਾਮਕੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕਸੀਰੇ ਕੇ ਕਾਮ ਨ ਕਾਲ ਕੋ ਘਾਉ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨ ਬਚਾਯੋ ॥੯੭॥
The Mantra recited for fulfillment of worldly desires doth not even bring the least gain and none of such Mantras can save from the blow of KAL.97.

ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਕੂਰ ਕਰੈ ਤਪਸਾ ਇਨ ਕੀ ਕੋਊ ਕੌਡੀ ਕੇ ਕਾਮ ਨ ਐਹੈ ॥
Why doth thou indulge in false austerities, because they will not bring in gain of even one cowrie.

ਤੋਹਿ ਬਚਾਇ ਸਕੈ ਕਹੁ ਕੈਸੇ ਕੈ ਆਪਨ ਘਾਵ ਬਚਾਇ ਨ ਐਹੈ ॥
The cannot save themselves form the blow (of KAL), how can they protect thee?

He explains that if those higher beings or avatars could not save themselves from death then how they could save you.

Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu and Con­sort of Sachi (Indra) would ulti­mately fall in the noose of death.
(41, Sri Dasam Granth,)

Here guru Gobind Singh Ji talks of the Sanatan texts that were most revered at the time. He clearly encourages us to abandon the old sanatan texts.

ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਾ ॥ ਮਮ ਉਚਾਰਿ ਤੇ ਭਯੋ ਦਿਵਾਨਾ ॥੧੬॥
None could comprehend the Lord, but instead became mad with `I-ness`.16.

ਪਰਮ ਤੱਤ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥ ਆਪ ਆਪ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਉਰਝਾਨਾ ॥
Nobody recognized the Supreme Essence, but was entangled within himself.

ਤਬ ਜੇ ਜੇ ਰਿਖਿ ਰਾਜ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਆਪਨ ਪੁਨ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਚਲਾਏ ॥੧੭॥
All the great rishis (sages), who were then created, produced their own Smritis.17.

ਜੇ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਨ ਕੇ ਭਏ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੀ ॥ ਤਿਨਿ ਤਿਨਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੀ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥
All those who became followers of these smritis, they abandoned the path of the Lord.

ਜਿਨ ਮਨ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨਨ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਨ ਕੇ ਰਾਹ ਨ ਆਯੋ ॥੧੮॥
Those who devoted themselves to the Feet of the Lord, they did not adopt the path of the Smritis.18.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਚਾਰ ਹੀ ਬੇਦ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ ਸਰਬ ਲੋਕ ਤਿਹ ਕਰਮ ਚਲਾਏ ॥
Brahma composed all the four Vedas, all the people followed the injunctions contained in them.

ਜਿਨ ਕੀ ਲਿਵ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨਨ ਲਾਗੀ ॥ ਤੇ ਬੇਦਨ ਤੇ ਭਏ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥੧੯॥
Those who were devoted to the Feet of the Lord, they abandoned the Vedas.19.

ਜਿਨ ਮਤਿ ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬਨ ਤਿਆਗੀ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੇ ਭਏ ਅਨੁਰਾਗੀ ॥
Those who abandoned the path of the Vedas and Katebs, they became the devotees of the Lord.
(Bachittar Natak, Dasam granth)

Guru Gobind Singh ji further makes his beleifs clear by making a very powerful statement in Bachittar Natak.

ਨਰਾਜ ਛੰਦ ॥
ਕਹਿਓ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁ ਭਾਖਿ ਹੋਂ ॥ ਕਿਸੂ ਨ ਕਾਨ ਰਾਖਿ ਹੋਂ ॥
I say only that which the Lord hath said, I do not yield to any­one else.

ਕਿਸੂ ਨ ਭੇਖ ਭੀਜ ਹੋਂ ॥ ਅਲੇਖ ਬੀਜ ਬੀਜ ਹੋਂ ॥੩੪॥
I do not feel pleased with any par­tic­u­lar cos­tume, I sow the seed of God‘s Name.34.

ਪਖਾਣ ਪੂਜ ਹੋਂ ਨਹੀਂ ॥ ਨ ਭੇਖ ਭੀਜ ਹੋ ਕਹੀਂ ॥
I do not wor­ship stones, nor I have any lik­ing for a par­tic­u­lar guise.

ਅਨੰਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਗਾਇ ਹੋਂ ॥ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਪਾਇ ਹੋਂ ॥੩੫॥
I sing infin­ite Names (of the Lord), and meet the Supreme Purusha.35.

ਜਟਾ ਨ ਸੀਸ ਧਾਰਿਹੋਂ ॥ ਨ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਕਾ ਸੁ ਧਾਰਿ ਹੋਂ ॥
I do not wear mat­ted hair on my head, nor do I put rings in my ears.

ਨ ਕਾਨਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਕੀ ਧਰੋਂ ॥ ਕਹਿਓ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁ ਮੈ ਕਰੋਂ ॥੩੬॥
I do not pay atten­tion to any­one else, all my actions are at the bid­ding of the Lord.36.

ਭਜੋਂ ਸੁ ਏਕ ਨਾਮਯੰ ॥ ਜੁ ਕਾਮ ਸਰਬ ਠਾਮਯੰ ॥
I recite only the Name of the Lord, which is use­ful at all places.

ਨ ਜਾਪ ਆਨ ਕੋ ਜਪੋ ॥ ਨ ਅਉਰ ਥਾਪਨਾ ਥਪੋ ॥੩੭॥
I do not med­it­ate on any­one else, nor do I seek assist­ance from any other quarter.37.

ਬਿਅੰਤਿ ਨਾਮ ਧਿਆਇ ਹੋਂ ॥ ਪਰਮ ਜੋਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਹੋਂ ॥
I recite infin­ite Names and attain the Supreme light.

(Guru Gobind Singh ji, 137 — Sri Dasam Granth)

Why would Guru Gobind Singh ji make these statements if he was not trying to differentiate the Khalsa from others who came before and the traditions and actions of the Sanatan people who came before them?

There is no doubt that Guru Gobind Singh ji came to start a new panth that was concerned with justice and the propagation of the timeless Lord, who was not subject to birth or death.

ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਪੁ ਧਰਾ ॥ ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਸ਼ਿਵਜੂ ਅਵਤਰਾ ॥
In due time Brahma appeared in phys­ical form; in due time Shiva incarnated;

ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ਾ ॥ ਸਕਲ ਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਕੀਯਾ ਤਮਾਸ਼ਾ ॥੩੮੩॥
In due time Vishnu mani­fes­ted him­self; all this is the play of the Tem­poral Lord.383.

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਜੋਗੀ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਬੇਦ ਰਾਜ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਜੂ ਥੀਯੋ ॥
The Tem­poral Lord, who cre­ated Shiva, the Yogi; who cre­ated Brahma, the Mas­ter of the Vedas;

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਲੋਕ ਸਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਨਮਸ਼ਕਾਰ ਹੈ ਤਾਹਿ ਹਮਾਰਾ ॥੩੮੪॥
The Tem­poral Lord who fash­ioned the entire world; I salute the same Lord.384.

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਜਗਤ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੇਵ ਦੈਤ ਜੱਛਨ ਉਪਜਾਯੋ ॥
The Tem­poral Lord, who cre­ated the whole world; who cre­ated gods, demons and yakshas;

ਆਦਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਏਕੈ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਸੋਈ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਮਝਿਯਹੁ ਹਮਾਰਾ ॥੩੮੫॥
He is the only one form the begin­ning to the end; I con­sider Him only my Guru.385.

(Kabeyo Bach Benti Chaupai, 2259, Sri Dasam Granth,)

The Guru references the devtey in his literature for the purposes of historical education, and examples of the past to be learnt from, whereas the Sanatanists mistranslate this as a way of propagating the same old Sanatan ways the Guru came to break us from.

ਕਰਹੁ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਤੀਸਰ ਪ੍ਰਵੇਸਾ
The Third Panth(besides Hinduism and Islam) called Khalsa Panth has entered in the world
ਜਗਹਿ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੋਧੇ ਧਰਹਿ ਨੀਲ ਭੇਸਾ
All Warrior Singhs are enlightened (spiritually) and have worn Blue Robes.
Guru Gobind Singh – Ugradanti Sahib.

 ਦੁਹੂੰ ਪੰਥ ਮੇਂ ਕਪਟ ਵਿਦਿਆ ਚਲਾਨੀ
In Both Religion(Hindu and Islam) the hypocrisy and fraud education is Prospering
ਬਹੁੜ ਤੀਸਰਾ ਪੰਥ ਕੀਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨੀ
Make Khalsa third panth pivotal and Dominant
— UgarDanti, Chand Six, Verse 17-18)

ਜੋ ਉਪਜੇ ਮਰੇ ਤਾਹੀ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਨਾ ਕੀਜੇ
Do not worship one who born or die
ਅਟਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਅਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਲੀਜੈ
and worship one Akal (Timeless), Atal (can’t destroy), immortal Lord
— UgarDanti, Chand Fifth, Verse 13-16)

We do not disrespect those who came before us as Vaheguru says that he made all of the devi, devtey, gandharvs, sidhas, mohameds, budhas, yakshas, rakhsash, etc, but Guru Gobind Singh ji’s mission was one to break people from the old Sanatan ways and to embrace the beyond Sanatan, Timeless AAD SACH, JUGAAD SACH, HAIBHEE SACH, NANAK HOSI BHEE Sach – eternal sacha pitaa gareeb nivaaj Sri Akaal Purkh VAHEGURU!


Kaal, Akaal and Mahakaal misinterpretation by Nidar

Here are some quotes from Nidar’s Website

On Nidars website he likes to equate Mahakaal, Kaal and Akaal with Hindu misrepresentations.

Even the designation ‘Akal’ was after all another designation of ‘Shiva’.
(Nidar Singh, ShastarVidiya, )

This is very similar to the arguments used by RSS and Arya Samajist Hindu’s on their website like saying that Guru Gobind Singh ji worshipped Kalika Devi, because they have a different interpretation to the words that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave us. Further clarification is within the same scriptures they use and quote from.

So if we ask Guru Gobind Singh Ji then what does he say….

ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਪੁ ਧਰਾ ॥ ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਸ਼ਿਵਜੂ ਅਵਤਰਾ ॥
काल पाइ ब्रहमा बपु धरा ॥ काल पाइ शिवजू अवतरा ॥
In due time Brahma appeared in physical form; in due time Shiva incarnated;

ਕਾਲ ਪਾਇ ਕਰਿ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ਾ ॥ ਸਕਲ ਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਕੀਯਾ ਤਮਾਸ਼ਾ ॥੩੮੩॥
काल पाइ करि बिशन प्रकाशा ॥ सकल काल का कीया तमाशा ॥३८३॥
In due time Vishnu manifested himself; all this is the play of the Temporal Lord.383.

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਜੋਗੀ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਬੇਦ ਰਾਜ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਜੂ ਥੀਯੋ ॥
जवन काल जोगी शिव कीयो ॥ बेद राज ब्रहमा जू थीयो ॥
The Temporal Lord, who created Shiva, the Yogi; who created Brahma, the Master of the Vedas;

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਲੋਕ ਸਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਨਮਸ਼ਕਾਰ ਹੈ ਤਾਹਿ ਹਮਾਰਾ ॥੩੮੪॥
जवन काल सभ लोक सवारा ॥ नमशकार है ताहि हमारा ॥३८४॥
The Temporal Lord who fashioned the entire world; I salute the same Lord.384.

ਜਵਨ ਕਾਲ ਸਭ ਜਗਤ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੇਵ ਦੈਤ ਜੱਛਨ ਉਪਜਾਯੋ ॥
जवन काल सभ जगत बनायो ॥ देव दैत ज्छन उपजायो ॥
The Temporal Lord, who created the whole world; who created gods, demons and yakshas;

ਆਦਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਏਕੈ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥ ਸੋਈ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਮਝਿਯਹੁ ਹਮਾਰਾ ॥੩੮੫॥
आदि अंति एकै अवतारा ॥ सोई गुरू समझियहु हमारा ॥३८५॥
He is the only one form the beginning to the end; I consider Him only my Guru.385.
(Kabeyo Bach Benti Chaupai, 2259, Sri Dasam Granth,)

how can the deities be Mahakaal or Akaal if they were subject to death(Kaal) Continue reading Kaal, Akaal and Mahakaal misinterpretation by Nidar

Leicester Gurdwara & Wolverhampton Gurdwara Cancel Nidar’s Classes

Slowly the sangat is being made aware of the true nature of Nidar’s agenda and they are not too happy about it.

Following on from Nidar’s class being cancelled at Singh Sabha Gurdwara Somerset Road, The sangat of 150 people from various jathebandees agreed that we must remove this person from our Gurdwaras as he is clearly preaching an anti sikh message and deluding many people.

Through sharing information and people reading themselves on Nidar’s website, the Gurdwaras have taken notice and Nidar has been given 4 weeks notice at Leicester Guru Amar Das Gurdwara. Upon seeing the twisted snatan ideology that Nidar pushes into his students, Wolverhampton Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara have also cancelled Nidar’s Gatka classes.

When the Leicester committee gave Nidar notice he flipped, ripped up their paperwork and threw it in their faces, he then wrote his own letter and handed it to them which we are posting here.

Nidar Continues to call the letter from Nihang Singh’s fake, yet has produced no proof of this. I personally met Baba Joginder Singh, Jathedar Budha Dal (who Nidar’s students are beginning to slander already), Bhai Mohan Singh of the Sikh Awareness Society called Baba Harnam Singh of Damdami Taksal and confirmed the signature. Gyani Kirpal Singh, who is Gyani at Stratford Road Gurdwara and an old school Harievala Nihang confirmed the signature of Baba Nihal Singh.

The funny thing is the Letter was signed by various people on diferent days so it wont have the same date, and whos letter head would it be, when it is from multiple jathebandees.

The important thing is the sangat is starting to wake up and realise the hidden agenda of Nidar and his cult followers. No longer can he prey on the unsuspecting sangat in our Gurdwaras.